I few days late getting to this but this was excellent. I have felt a bit off lately and it’s been so hard to figure out what is the cause and what to do about it when it feels like (waves hands wildly) it’s EVERYTHING. Do I need to stop keeping up with politics or social media, do I need new friends, do I need to quit my job, do I need HRT, or maybe therapy or all of the above? Thank you Beth and the PP community. I feel safer here than with most of my IRL friends right now. 😔
Alise - I need all your thoughts on The Bones Beneath My Skin. I read it early this year and no one else I know has read it!
(I had no idea TJ Klune was so prolific. I read House in the Cerulean Sea in fall of 2022 and sought out a few more. So I read In The Lives of Puppets and Under the Whispering Door. And then I realized I've now jumped off a cliff akin to my Stephen King collection. :D But I adore his work and his view on worlds so no complaints! I just finished Wolfsong...)
Yes to all the perimenopause stuff. The itching is the worst! I have scabs and scratched all over my hands and legs. It comes in waves, thankfully I’m in a quiet phase. My friend “Peri” seems to be napping at the moment so I have some calm. Though I was crying for no reason on Friday, I think she popped her head in the door to say “Hi!”.
Thanks for sharing the Derek Thompson piece. I was struck by the graph all at once showing the truth of single men with no kids needing help building relationships, partnered men often lean on their partners for socialization, AND partnered women with kids have very little leisure and/or alone time (my lived experience). Helping men with those skills will help women, too!
Young men and boys need many more in person third places that appeal to their interests.
In the moment of hope category, I’m currently traveling with a small group of three couples I did not know previously. We are two from Southern California, two currently living in Oregon but who spent much of their lives in the South, and two from a small town in Wisconsin who have spent meaningful chunks of their lives on farms. Very different vibes, very different communities. Not one of us has any respect or patience for this administration. The disenchantment runs deep, even if the other side is louder.
“massive-mega-global-conglomorate-techno-robber-baron-blobs-of-organizations-piled-on-top-of-each-other-for-no-discernible-purpose-except-more-and-more-and-more-money” is exactly how I feel about them. Truly, what good do they offer?
The episodes this week were some of the best I've listened to in my 5+ years of listening to Pantsuit Politics. They both challenged me and put words to things I've been struggling to articulate. I want to be able to discuss politics and current events with my family and have tried on and off when I feel I have the capacity to do so with dignity and from a place of wanting to understand. One person in the group consistently turns the discussions into ad hominem attacks on anyone who is not in alignment. I'm wrestling with whether I can continue to engage if this doesn’t change. When I started listening, this was also how I engaged and I realized it was taking a toll on our relationships and stepped back from them to take time to repair and do better on my end. I don't have answers and I know that I have some difficult conversations ahead. Thank you for showing us all a different way to engage.
I am capital T tired as well. And truly flummoxed at these big corporations just handing their significant power over to Trump. I’m sure there are Reasons I don’t understand, but it feels so silly to me. What is the point of being a mega corporation if you’re just going to give all your power away when you get the smallest pushback?
I think the Keira Knightley version is visually beautiful. The walk in the mist in particular. But I am a Colin Firth/Jennifer Ehle stan forever and ever amen.
I think the Knightley version is also visually beautiful, but my spicy take is that I think Knightley herself was miscast. Elizabeth Bennet is not pouty in the book! I think Ehle captured her vibe much better.
Finally someone else who knows about this! I saw that movie early on and to this day when I bring it up I just get blank looks. I still randomly burst into the song about Mr.Collins, it’s such an earworm.
A couple years ago we watched Pride & Prejudice & Zombies! Is it Pride & Prejudice? Not really. I consider it a zombie movie loosely set in the Regency era and therefore enjoyed it. It felt more like Austen fan fiction, so if you can separate it from actual Pride & Prejudice, you might enjoy the ride. Keep those expectations low. lol
Good read 👏🏽
I few days late getting to this but this was excellent. I have felt a bit off lately and it’s been so hard to figure out what is the cause and what to do about it when it feels like (waves hands wildly) it’s EVERYTHING. Do I need to stop keeping up with politics or social media, do I need new friends, do I need to quit my job, do I need HRT, or maybe therapy or all of the above? Thank you Beth and the PP community. I feel safer here than with most of my IRL friends right now. 😔
Alise - I need all your thoughts on The Bones Beneath My Skin. I read it early this year and no one else I know has read it!
(I had no idea TJ Klune was so prolific. I read House in the Cerulean Sea in fall of 2022 and sought out a few more. So I read In The Lives of Puppets and Under the Whispering Door. And then I realized I've now jumped off a cliff akin to my Stephen King collection. :D But I adore his work and his view on worlds so no complaints! I just finished Wolfsong...)
I feel this so deeply. Thank you Beth.
Yes to all the perimenopause stuff. The itching is the worst! I have scabs and scratched all over my hands and legs. It comes in waves, thankfully I’m in a quiet phase. My friend “Peri” seems to be napping at the moment so I have some calm. Though I was crying for no reason on Friday, I think she popped her head in the door to say “Hi!”.
Thanks for sharing the Derek Thompson piece. I was struck by the graph all at once showing the truth of single men with no kids needing help building relationships, partnered men often lean on their partners for socialization, AND partnered women with kids have very little leisure and/or alone time (my lived experience). Helping men with those skills will help women, too!
Young men and boys need many more in person third places that appeal to their interests.
In the moment of hope category, I’m currently traveling with a small group of three couples I did not know previously. We are two from Southern California, two currently living in Oregon but who spent much of their lives in the South, and two from a small town in Wisconsin who have spent meaningful chunks of their lives on farms. Very different vibes, very different communities. Not one of us has any respect or patience for this administration. The disenchantment runs deep, even if the other side is louder.
“massive-mega-global-conglomorate-techno-robber-baron-blobs-of-organizations-piled-on-top-of-each-other-for-no-discernible-purpose-except-more-and-more-and-more-money” is exactly how I feel about them. Truly, what good do they offer?
I just finished Kingmaker and am intrigued to hear Sarah’s Thoughts!
Im so tired i just want not to care but all of my systems are caring very much.
Co-sign all of this. Also, the spicy captions made me LOL, so thank you for that.
I just wanna go back to normal times. But then I wonder what we’re normal times in America. It definitely wasn’t this.
The episodes this week were some of the best I've listened to in my 5+ years of listening to Pantsuit Politics. They both challenged me and put words to things I've been struggling to articulate. I want to be able to discuss politics and current events with my family and have tried on and off when I feel I have the capacity to do so with dignity and from a place of wanting to understand. One person in the group consistently turns the discussions into ad hominem attacks on anyone who is not in alignment. I'm wrestling with whether I can continue to engage if this doesn’t change. When I started listening, this was also how I engaged and I realized it was taking a toll on our relationships and stepped back from them to take time to repair and do better on my end. I don't have answers and I know that I have some difficult conversations ahead. Thank you for showing us all a different way to engage.
I am capital T tired as well. And truly flummoxed at these big corporations just handing their significant power over to Trump. I’m sure there are Reasons I don’t understand, but it feels so silly to me. What is the point of being a mega corporation if you’re just going to give all your power away when you get the smallest pushback?
☝️☝️☝️ THIS.
Yes. I feel that if I had f-you money, I would tell someone trying to intimidate me to f-off
That would be so immensely satisfying right now.
At first I read this as “if I had f-you money I’d immediately tell someone to f-off.” If only…
What is the point, INDEED?!?
I think the Keira Knightley version is visually beautiful. The walk in the mist in particular. But I am a Colin Firth/Jennifer Ehle stan forever and ever amen.
I think the Knightley version is also visually beautiful, but my spicy take is that I think Knightley herself was miscast. Elizabeth Bennet is not pouty in the book! I think Ehle captured her vibe much better.
One of the best P&P adaptations missed the list… Bride and Prejudice! It is a delight.
Finally someone else who knows about this! I saw that movie early on and to this day when I bring it up I just get blank looks. I still randomly burst into the song about Mr.Collins, it’s such an earworm.
There was also a Zombie Pride and Prejudice on the list, and I would really love to hear from someone who has seen it!
A couple years ago we watched Pride & Prejudice & Zombies! Is it Pride & Prejudice? Not really. I consider it a zombie movie loosely set in the Regency era and therefore enjoyed it. It felt more like Austen fan fiction, so if you can separate it from actual Pride & Prejudice, you might enjoy the ride. Keep those expectations low. lol
Sounds like a fun Halloween flick! I’m in!!!
Halloween would be a perfect time to watch it. It was cute.
Maggie I think we watched it around Halloween a couple years ago! Perfect for that occasion.
The book is an absolute bloody travesty. I cannot imagine that the movie is any better.
Omg I forgot about that movie!