I'm just now reading the book and some of the stories she tells is just WILD! In what world does a pumping mom not think through outlets ahead of time? How are you traveling to multiple countries and questioning whether you will be imprisoned or captured by ISIS? I'm can't quit reading becuase this is the juiciest book that I doubt is fully true every page I read.
Ok, finally finished the book so now I can comment. In this conversation, there was a lot of understandable criticism of Sarah Winn-Williams because she comments on everything that was happening but still stayed with the company and didn't blow the whistle until she was forced out.
I think we all believe we know our red lines, but when we are faced with those red lines, it is a lot harder than we believed it would be to still leave. I experienced the same thing on a MUCH smaller scale related to working as a Lutheran high school teacher. While I was eventually fired for being openly anti-Trump on my personal social media (because how could a "teacher like that" be allowed to still work at the school), there were a lot of moments when I thought "this should be the final straw" and leaving was harder than I thought it would be. I had to be pushed out to finally be free to say what I wanted to about the system I had worked in for 17 years. Leaving and speaking out is a tremendous risk to financial stability, your career, your health, your family, and even your social life.
Do I wish she had spoken up earlier? Yes. Do I believe staying for as long as she did gave her insight we wouldn't have today if she had left earlier? Yes. Do I believe she was complicit in some of Facebook's moves? Yes. Do I believe she is brave in now speaking out? Yes.
I guess I'm saying it's complicated and I'm glad she's finally out, even if she had to be fired to make that happen.
And now I have to be serious about my Facebook exit strategy 😬
Haven’t listened yet because I’m listening to the book first. I’m also reading Sharon Mchman’s book The Small and Mighty. In Sharon’s book I read last night that she
hates Andrew Jackson. Listening to careless people today and hearing the Zuck’s favorite president is Andrew Jackson 🙃
Really interesting episode! As a New Zealander I’m interested in how Sarah’s upbringing here in NZ influenced her thinking and decisions. Looking forward to listening to the audio book.
I haven’t read the book but it’s on my list! And here’s to being off social media (by that I mean IG and Facebook) for the last 4+ months. It’s been so liberating!
I wasn't able to watch live so I'm happy you shared the playback. I had already listened to the Glamorous Trash episode about this book so I was wondering if this extra discussion would be worth my time. It certainly was!! I loved this conversation.
Only 10 minutes in and I can't help thinking about how my niece reacted in disbelief when I told her that my college boyfriend considered studying psychology for marketing, back in the late 1980s. She was like, why would a marketing major study psychology?
Oh, honey, sit down. You're a full-grown adult who hasn't watched Mad Men. You might need to breathe into a paper bag for a few minutes before I break your worldview.
I'm just now reading the book and some of the stories she tells is just WILD! In what world does a pumping mom not think through outlets ahead of time? How are you traveling to multiple countries and questioning whether you will be imprisoned or captured by ISIS? I'm can't quit reading becuase this is the juiciest book that I doubt is fully true every page I read.
Ok, finally finished the book so now I can comment. In this conversation, there was a lot of understandable criticism of Sarah Winn-Williams because she comments on everything that was happening but still stayed with the company and didn't blow the whistle until she was forced out.
I think we all believe we know our red lines, but when we are faced with those red lines, it is a lot harder than we believed it would be to still leave. I experienced the same thing on a MUCH smaller scale related to working as a Lutheran high school teacher. While I was eventually fired for being openly anti-Trump on my personal social media (because how could a "teacher like that" be allowed to still work at the school), there were a lot of moments when I thought "this should be the final straw" and leaving was harder than I thought it would be. I had to be pushed out to finally be free to say what I wanted to about the system I had worked in for 17 years. Leaving and speaking out is a tremendous risk to financial stability, your career, your health, your family, and even your social life.
Do I wish she had spoken up earlier? Yes. Do I believe staying for as long as she did gave her insight we wouldn't have today if she had left earlier? Yes. Do I believe she was complicit in some of Facebook's moves? Yes. Do I believe she is brave in now speaking out? Yes.
I guess I'm saying it's complicated and I'm glad she's finally out, even if she had to be fired to make that happen.
And now I have to be serious about my Facebook exit strategy 😬
Haven’t listened yet because I’m listening to the book first. I’m also reading Sharon Mchman’s book The Small and Mighty. In Sharon’s book I read last night that she
hates Andrew Jackson. Listening to careless people today and hearing the Zuck’s favorite president is Andrew Jackson 🙃
Oof, when I heard that while I was listening to the book my eyes got SO big.
Really interesting episode! As a New Zealander I’m interested in how Sarah’s upbringing here in NZ influenced her thinking and decisions. Looking forward to listening to the audio book.
Did I immediately hit play on the Careless People audio book on Spotify after listening to this? Yes I did.
It went immediately into my Libby queue.
The word you're looking for is Terr-oir
These two woman together is AMAZEBALLS!!!
I haven’t read the book but it’s on my list! And here’s to being off social media (by that I mean IG and Facebook) for the last 4+ months. It’s been so liberating!
I wasn't able to watch live so I'm happy you shared the playback. I had already listened to the Glamorous Trash episode about this book so I was wondering if this extra discussion would be worth my time. It certainly was!! I loved this conversation.
Yes, same. I had already listened to the episode and I love that Chelsea brought together 4 different people's perspectives!
Mary! This is so nice to hear! Thank you ♥️
Only 10 minutes in and I can't help thinking about how my niece reacted in disbelief when I told her that my college boyfriend considered studying psychology for marketing, back in the late 1980s. She was like, why would a marketing major study psychology?
Oh, honey, sit down. You're a full-grown adult who hasn't watched Mad Men. You might need to breathe into a paper bag for a few minutes before I break your worldview.
Mad Men forever changed the way I see the advertising world.
Dolly Parton!!!!
In answer to the celebrity who was not broken by fame and wealth
Dolly 4eva
It’s a Mem Noir! (combo of memoir and film noir)
There it is!