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Katie Barbieri's avatar

Yes to four day work week with this set up:

1. Workers choose to have off either Monday or Friday (ensuring coverage on both days for businesses including doctor's offices etc.)

2. No meetings occur on Monday or Friday; if it is your work day, it's when you get to have uninterrupted working time.

3. Kids are still in school five days a week BUT (former teacher), Fridays are for sports, clubs, field trips, assemblies, special events where parents can volunteer etc. Teachers can then much more easily take off on this day for doctor's appointments without having to write sub plans or worry about "losing a day of instruction". And if teachers are at work, they are not running the assemblies etc. They can have team meetings (instead of after school), grade/plan/telework/take a long lunch (a luxury teachers don't have).

4. Teachers get priority when booking appointments on Fridays because it's the one profession where you can't simply "take the day off"- there are always sub plans to coordinate.

5. This brings me to my final point that employers should not expect that everyone makes all their appointments on their day off; having a 10 am dentist cleaning is still going to happen, if for no other reason than all the teachers are at the dentist on Fridays :)

Ashley Macchia's avatar

I'm upset about the ballroom too, but the thing that pushed me over the edge recently was reading that DeSantis is planning to rename PBI after Trump. We have family in South Florida and fly into this airport often. This is one thing (if it goes through) that I worry won't be undone after he's gone. Ugggghhhhh. On the bright side, my right-leaning father and I griped about it together, so that was a nice bonding moment 😂

Alexa G's avatar

With you on this as a Floridian, but also the sheer cost of changing the airport name makes it all the more insane to me. Wasn’t DeSantis just so concerned about his own version of DOGE? 🤦🏻‍♀️

Ashley Macchia's avatar

Maybe it’s one of those things he says he’s going to do but then it takes forever and never happens? 😬🤞

Katie Barbieri's avatar

Here to join in the celebration of commiserating with loved ones who often don't vote the same as you. It's such a relief sometimes.

SD's avatar
Apr 6Edited

Also, I am in an industry that is open 7 days a week (librarian). I am not sure what I think about a good chunk of the population working four days a week, especially if they were the same four days. On the one hand, it would provide three days of the week that public librarians could plan big events when lots of people are off, rather than the current two. And college librarians would have another day of open days for one-on-one appointments with students and faculty. BUT, would the four days when most people are working be even more demanding? If anything, school librarians need a sixth half day with students as they have in some countries, because as it is now, students do not have enough time with the school librarian to learn the research skills college professors expect them to have when they enter. (A huge problem right now.)

SD's avatar

I worked for Presidential Libraries for a while, and when you started talking about the non-profit to fund it, I thought, "Well, that's not strange. It's been that way for decades to avoid taxpayers paying for the museum part of the library." But then you went on about the SECOND non-profit, and once again, I still can't believe that he gets away with stuff that no one else ever would have in the past. Ugggh.

Marsha Cochran's avatar

Definitely Fridays for me. My old boss gave us 1/2 day Fridays about 10 years ago. He sold his business a little over a year ago. No more 1/2 days. I never knew how much those 4 hours every week meant to me.

Katie Barbieri's avatar

omg I am so sorry for your loss. My boss is newer to his position and previous leadership always had "summer hours" in the month of July and it saved me as a mom whose four kids are in camp from 9-3 while I worked 10-2. I have a very strong feeling this summer will not have those same hours.

Emily Henderson's avatar

You know what would be really petty but awesome is if PBS did like 6 part series with Ken burns on the history of the White House with all the amazing historical tie-ins and symbolism and majesty. Make it have a soaring soundtrack with a live orchestra and interviews of Americans who took tours of the White House and staff who’ve worked their for 20 years then at the end cut to the hole in the ground and historians telling us exactly what’s missing and can’t be replaced because of this man’s vanity… just a thought

Carrie C's avatar

LOVE this idea

Emily Henderson's avatar

And another thing… maybe have architectural historians talk about his stupid basic renderings that are completely devoid of symbolism “and here is the staircase that leads to nowhere… here are the fake widows to hide the bathrooms…” make the tone dripping with sarcasm and distain. Unfortunately i could go on forever, but I’ll stop now. 🤦‍♀️

Susanne's avatar

Okay I get how the clips of him talking were important for this episode, but I’ve quit listening to any news source or podcast that plays clips of his voice because it triggers a very unpleasant response from my body. So…can we go back to no clips again please? Because I really can’t stop listening to you two, but it puts me in a bad place 🥰

Ashley Macchia's avatar

SAME. When Beth said, "That's a direct quote," I immediately thought, I believe you! Please don't play it 😂

Alliecat1881 (Allison B)'s avatar

Dr. Ramani's recent post about "sane washing" is worth a listen. I just want us to be more honest and call this f-ing guy what he is. A gigantic narcissistic baby surrounded by enablers. I'm done being shocked by him or calling out his actions. He is never going to change. It might be Grayrock time. No idea what that would look like in practice yet. https://youtu.be/rQspLCv-XTw?si=uQo06ia5G--zU2zO

Katie R's avatar

It always stings when I hear you say that gas is up to $4 a gallon because I just paid $6.07 at the “cheap” station 🙃

Maggie Penton's avatar

Just remember that to get that price we also have to/get to live in Florida (or in Sarah and Beth's case, Kentucky).

We make up for it in Florida with toll roads (and the ones that aren't toll roads seem to have a "pave it yourself" maintenance schedule

Katie R's avatar

😂

Anna Todd's avatar

Thank you for this. I think we all needed to just get it out. I DO have a little evidence of things changing which is that a couple weekends ago I visited my grandma in central IL and her Trump porch sign was gone. I actually didn't see a single Trump sign all weekend driving through rural small towns which hasn't happened since 2015.

Katie Barbieri's avatar

Love to (not) see it!

Jacqueline Arrowood's avatar

My kids have been on spring break so theirs will be over on Monday. I am taking 2 mondays off later this month, while all the kids are at school, mostly because I need those days to sew. I decided I would make my daughter's prom dress this year, and I agreed to alter her best friend's dress, and they have prom on May 1st so it is now crunch time. Hopefully the Monday energy will help me be more productive.

I have nothing to say about the rest of the episode, because I am do sick of that "show" and that "character" and you guys said what we all feel.

Anyway I gotta go sew now.

Sarah Walker's avatar

As someone who chooses to work a F-M work week so I can do all my adulting while everyone else is at work and school - if we are going to go to four day work weeks, we have to stagger the days off. None of this the whole world is trying to adult and pleasure at the same time. Nope - stagger that calendar. Even the dentists and doctors offices. Imagine a world where there is no official "business day" - because some places are open M-Th, others T-F, and yet others W-Sat. Imagine not having to juggle and cram. *Happy sigh* it would be so wonderful.

Allison's avatar

I have been guilty of saying I’d love for four-day work weeks to be standard…as long as kids are still in school five days a week 😂 I know I know, I’m sorry teachers and everyone else who works at schools, but it would be AMAZING if my husband and I had a day off every week without having to parent.

Alliecat1881 (Allison B)'s avatar

I would love 4 day work weeks and agree on the staggering. It would be so great for crowding and traffic. Not 10hr days though. I think we've become so much more efficient & productive that we can justify working less in general.

AEHG's avatar

I once had a 4/10 schedule and had Wednesdays off. It was the best! Work 2 days, 1 weekday off to get shit done, work 2 days, then a 2 day weekend. I also worked a Tuesday-Saturday schedule for a long time. I miss having routine weekdays off.

Asha Dornfest's avatar

This f*ing guy! No phrase better sums up the GALL, and that particular combo of disgust, rage, heartbreak and disbelief we all feel. To be subjected to such obscenity day after day, and to know that people’s lives have been/will be ruined or lost as a result. You all know! Sarah and Beth, thank you for giving voice to the full spectrum with your reliable humanity and smarts. And for giving us a place to voice it too. Sarah, hearing you choke up over the defilement of the office and the design of the city made me choke up too. I feel it too, even as a west coaster, even has one who isn’t a “president person.” (Ok, except Barack Obama.)

Rebecca Smotherman's avatar

When the clips of his speeches played in this episode, I realized it’s been months since I’ve heard his voice. I refuse to listen to him. And my main takeaway from hearing him today…man, he sounds so much older.

Alexa G's avatar

Same! We’ve started getting political commercials in my area and I physically cringe every time I hear him endorsing a candidate. I noticed he sounds softer somehow, like he doesn’t have the same enthusiasm or power behind his words.

Sara  Duran's avatar

I’ve lived in Minneapolis for 20 years and have never heard of the cat tour lol.

SD's avatar

I think it's pretty new. Maybe started during the pandemic? (Also, I thought it was in St Paul?)

Sara  Duran's avatar

I looked it up and it started in 2017 in the Wedge neighborhood of Minneapolis:)

Xergio's avatar

I can’t comment on anything about tfg because is not good for my soul.

As for long weekends, two things:

(1) I come from a culture where if the holiday was on Tuesday or Thursday you “make a bridge(literal translation) and take the Monday or the Tuesday.

(2) I have worked in Catholic institution for over 20 years now. Three lifetimes ago I went to a Jesuit college. So we get Good Friday and Easter Monday.

Alliecat1881 (Allison B)'s avatar

My county in Maryland takes both Friday and Monday AND gives employees lots of other freebies off... like Superbowl Monday. They are very pro employee 😁

Katie Barbieri's avatar

a. Where in MD are you?

b. I will die on the hill that Superbowl Monday should be a national holiday, even though I'm not a huge football fan or anything. We still watch it and no one functions the next day!

Alliecat1881 (Allison B)'s avatar

Southern. I'm in Charles County.

Same! I wouldn't mind a lighter work schedule for all the major sporting events. Holidays help small businesses and restaurants, and builds community.

Hilda Kleiman's avatar

I worked for Catholic institutions for many years and always had most of Holy Week off. This year, as I now work for a public educationial institution, I took a personal day today so I could fully observe Good Friday.

Xergio's avatar

Have you ever heard of Easter Monday? Sounds super made up to me but I love it.

Hilda Kleiman's avatar

Absolutely! In the Catholic tradition, the whole week after Easter is Easter Week, so there's Easter Monday, Easter Tuesday etc👍🏻

Xergio's avatar

Well true, Easter lasts until Pentecost, but as a day off?

Hilda Kleiman's avatar

Only when I worked at a Catholic seminary or at a Catholic parish ☺️

Xergio's avatar

Of course!!! I am a Catholic Charities employee