I can’t stop thinking about the amount of money spent by all these myriads of people in the name of trying to jockey for power… while also using things like fraud allegations for their own purposes. The sheer hypocrisy and corruption of it all is simply staggering.
In the absence of information, we fill in the holes of a story. And, in the current climate of low (to no) trust, those patches will likely lack nuance.
It's refreshing to see so much care taken with this topic. I trust Beth and PP to keep this in a nuanced context, which does much to highlight just how crazy the Epstein situation really is.
Something that keeps bothering me about this saga, is that I feel like what a not insignificant number of people are looking for in wanting “the truth” from the Epstein files at this point, is just to see a very public, very painful fall-from-grace of wealthy, powerful, connected people, mostly just because they don’t like those people. What they are EXTREMELY and palpably bloodthirsty for, is for those who experience that to also be of the opposite political opinion than them and be guilty of the most heinous things imaginable. Wherever they stand, their mouths are watering to be able to call “the other side” horrific monsters, and it seems they are almost hoping that will happen so they can sink their pitchforks into some flesh. It’s almost like people have this weird hope that people they already don’t like actually have committed sex crimes, and hopefully those crimes were against minors. It’s gross generally, but also because this pursuit seems to largely lack any concern for the actual victims of whatever happened. It’s like many have lost the plot by just hoping for the ultimate schadenfreude.
I both understand the public outrage and think it illustrates why it's so vital that government do its job in these cases. This is a terrible way for information to get to the public. It's also the only real option now because of how badly the matter has been handled for years. Even so, we're not getting the answers that we most need: what did the government do with all of this information? What deals did it cut? Why did it make those deals?
Thank you for the clear synopsis of this issue. I think it is important to remember that most files from cases are not made public, but we had a presidential candidate that ran on making them public and then hasn't done so.
I can’t stop thinking about the amount of money spent by all these myriads of people in the name of trying to jockey for power… while also using things like fraud allegations for their own purposes. The sheer hypocrisy and corruption of it all is simply staggering.
In the absence of information, we fill in the holes of a story. And, in the current climate of low (to no) trust, those patches will likely lack nuance.
So nothing happened between 2009-2018? Legally anyway?
There were civil actions from victims but not criminal charges from a government in that window. PBS has a really helpful timeline: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/a-timeline-of-the-jeffrey-epstein-investigation-and-the-fight-to-make-the-governments-files-public
Oh thanks! That makes more sense … I mean in the upside world where it seems like we all are
"These are all wild understatements."
It's refreshing to see so much care taken with this topic. I trust Beth and PP to keep this in a nuanced context, which does much to highlight just how crazy the Epstein situation really is.
Has Alex Acosta been questioned by a bipartisan committee? And if not, why ?
He testified in front of the House Oversight Committee in a closed-door interview last year. Here's a link to the transcript: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CtE3pRovhmz8pLDZEtR-vKe87UVT4TLO/view
The 2 most recent episodes of We Can Do Hard Things present tons of history about this whole thing. Worth listening to.
Thanks for all the detail here.
Something that keeps bothering me about this saga, is that I feel like what a not insignificant number of people are looking for in wanting “the truth” from the Epstein files at this point, is just to see a very public, very painful fall-from-grace of wealthy, powerful, connected people, mostly just because they don’t like those people. What they are EXTREMELY and palpably bloodthirsty for, is for those who experience that to also be of the opposite political opinion than them and be guilty of the most heinous things imaginable. Wherever they stand, their mouths are watering to be able to call “the other side” horrific monsters, and it seems they are almost hoping that will happen so they can sink their pitchforks into some flesh. It’s almost like people have this weird hope that people they already don’t like actually have committed sex crimes, and hopefully those crimes were against minors. It’s gross generally, but also because this pursuit seems to largely lack any concern for the actual victims of whatever happened. It’s like many have lost the plot by just hoping for the ultimate schadenfreude.
I both understand the public outrage and think it illustrates why it's so vital that government do its job in these cases. This is a terrible way for information to get to the public. It's also the only real option now because of how badly the matter has been handled for years. Even so, we're not getting the answers that we most need: what did the government do with all of this information? What deals did it cut? Why did it make those deals?
Thank you so much for this 💕💕
Thank you for the clear synopsis of this issue. I think it is important to remember that most files from cases are not made public, but we had a presidential candidate that ran on making them public and then hasn't done so.
Clearest explanation I have seen yet on this issue. Thanks.
Also, your point about people extrapolating - very possibly to even worse things than are actually in the files - is a good one.