Chiming in on the Catholicism popularity of late- a big reason I think many are flocking to the church is the consistency over literal centuries and the rules are what make it so clear to know where you stand. It's never about the priest, whereas so many churches in our culture are ALL about the pastor, in fact, the priests wear what they do to deemphasize themselves in the Mass. Think of it as going to a familiar friend each week and knowing that even if you are across the world when you call that friend up they will still be there in the same, familiar ways for you.
Re Spotify and exposure to new music: I think what we're missing is curation from an actual DJ... I miss radio so much! I just watched a documentary about the Red Hot Chili Peppers and kept thinking, where are kids going to find that one obscure band right before they blow up? It used to be in small clubs and weird college radio stations. I don't know what kids do now, I guess the internet, but there is so much noise out there. I refuse to pay for Spotify, but if they started having DJ's, like expert curators of all kinds of genre's that talk about the music and play interesting stuff, SIGN ME UP!
Here as the parent of a 16 year old boy to tell you I know to Juice World is, and have known for years as that is all my son and his friends listen to. So his presence on the list isn’t a surprise to me as he also has ALOT of music that has come out the last few years.
Re: Spotify, we gotta remember that it’s the most streams over the last 20 years. Which means 2006. Drake was Drake long before the big blow up a couple years ago. Kanye was Kanye not Ye for much of that time. Rhianna was making music with Eminem. Idk, this list has young millennial high school and college culture all over it!! I’m turning 33 today and this feels right. Except juice world??? Idk about them either lol
All the corruption and powerlessness, lack of choices, feeling trapped... societies become more open and approving of vigilante justice if they don't feel there is fairness or balance, and if supernatural justice has failed or isn't part of the culture.
I am definitely a contributor to “Blinding Lights” being the most streamed on Spotify. It was my number one the year it came out. I do use Spotify to discover new music - Skott, Blanco White, Cannons are some of the ones I have been introduced to.
This might just be me but I’m actually very curious if it was this way for anyone else as well:
I didn’t talk to a single person about the shooting outside of a 30 second conversation with my husband Saturday night. I am friends with politically engaged or otherwise generally aware people. The people who will text/call/scream whenever he dies (of hopefully natural causes). I Spent Sunday at my son’s lax game with my in laws and other friends. Not one person even mentioned it. And neither did I because… I didn’t have a single thing to say about it? Any conversation would have consisted of “did you hear?” (Knowing full well they did) and then “yes crazy, glad no one was hurt” insert shoulder shrug? There’s the line in the Handmaid’s Tale that goes something like, “Normal is just what you’re used to.” And apparently a lot of us are just used to assassination attempts on Donald Trump and that is… troubling.
Same here. My husband told me about it because I don't take this stuff in over the weekend (we have an agreement that he'll tell me about anything major) and no one else in my life spoke of it.
I didn't hear about it until Monday morning... My news intake is very wrapped into my M-F routine so weekend stuff often falls off my radar. My husband gets news alerts on his phone. He saw it and also didn't choose to bring it up. I asked him about it and he said, "nobody got hurt, so it didn't feel necessary." We hung out with neighbors a lot of the day and none of them brought it up either.
Spotify - put on Olivia Dean Radio (or whatever artist) it will pull in others that are similar & you will find new artists that you like. The list doesn't surprise me, but it's not what I listen to outside of Taylor Swift. But I do follow the Jamie B Golden rule of if you want to listen to a new album for a while, run it on You Tube & not your Spotify so that you don't ruin your Wrapped.
Conspiracy was my first thought. But then I feel back to my basic theory when things go wrong - always assume incompetence. In that the likelihood of things going wrong because people screwed up is always more likely than an organized cabal who managed to make everything go wrong in just the right way.
Plus, from a more skeptical point of view, I don’t think this was a useful staged event. In that it was on a weekend, so people aren’t paying attention. It’s still 6 months from the election. It’s right in the middle of other big events like Iran and the King’s visit which quickly pull the narrative away from what was really some brief but uneventful excitement.
If this hasn’t been mentioned yet regarding the comment about Coldplay’s “Yellow” …. That song now belongs to the Savannah Bananas baseball team. I bet that is exactly why it is so popular.
I’ve been thinking about the reporting of the recent increased movement towards religion for a while now, and trying to figure out what exactly it’s about. Like, what is being offered there that is so attractive? It’s also been reported that males, in particular, have had a significantly increased movement towards religion. Now, I realize this is very cynical, but what I’ve come up with, after asking what religious communities offer that might be “missing” from society at large (at least in relative terms), particularly for males, and what I landed on for many religions, is patriarchy. Quite a few religions have a real “obey the man of the house” vibe (or worse) built in or, as with Catholicism (in which I was raised), a very clear hierarchy of elevating of men over women in leadership roles.
I think it's the ritual and community aspects that are attracting young men too. That and feeling a sense of purpose. Women went to college, men went to church. The loneliness epidemic has found a potential solution in religion.
I also think it's not a statistically significant trend quite yet.
Totally agree. We have a "mega church" in our downtown that attracts LOTS of young people (18-24 year olds, young families, etc.). There is a coffee shop attached to it which I went and worked in one day. I was honestly a bit floored by all the young men just sitting and having coffee together. Some of them were reading/discussing things. There was a kind of, I don't know the word I'm looking for, almost affectionate vibe they were giving off? Like they were speaking kindly and gently and thoughtfully with one another and yes, as someone who is hugely skeptical of this church I can hear some alarm bells going off but I can't pretend like I see much of that in secular spaces.
There was an interview on NPR Tuesday morning with a woman who knew Cole Thomas Allen when he was in a university Christian group with her. She said that he’d been mischaracterized as anti-Christian and felt his manifesto was misguided but was thought out from a moral point of view. I do think that the negative messages of the Trump administration do provoke frustration and a sense of hopelessness.
I bet you would know J Balvin’s Mi Gente if you put it on. I spent a few years doing Latin dance on the regular and he’s in my regular Spotify rotation for sure.
As a lifelong Catholic who has always struggled with my love for the church and my wish that it was fully LGBT affirming and allowed women’s ordination, I am so interested by the “Catholic moment” that’s happening. We are seeing a lot of new converts in our area.
I'm more tinfoil hat for Butler than for WHCD, and I'm trying to leave it on the shelf. But here's the deal: Doesn't it seem odd that this never happened to Obama? I mean, there were threats. I've read about them just yesterday to remind myself. There is a person who stormed the White House during Obama's time. But now 3 times for Trump including one close call in 18 months? That's Gerald Ford level (ICYMI: Shots fired by two different women, 17 days apart.) People hate Trump, but let's be real. There were some awful people who hated Obama. Three possible explanations: (1) Obama tried to keep the threats against himself low key so as not to rile up his base, and Trump likes it when his base is riled up. However, if somebody had shot at Obama, that would be news no matter what, so I don't think that's quite the reason. (2) Secret Security has become lax for some reason? We basically went from 1981 to 2024 without hearing of a shot fired at a sitting or ex-president. That's a long stretch. I assumed that's because they had some procedures nailed down. Maybe they've become complacent? (3) There were things in Obama's time, and I don't remember them very well because of the passage of time.
I was wondering this. I definitely worried about Obama’s safety as president and I think there were probably threats or plans that were thwarted and they were not publicized at all. Due to not wanting to encourage copycats, leak secure information, or rile up the public. Which, does seem like might be happening with this one…
This has been on my mind as well. Did Trump hire his own secret service (ie, incompetent like the rest of his administration)? Because if not... I find it hard to believe 3 assassination attempts that came that close (but that also didn't happen to succeed) are just a "coincidence". And I am the exact opposite of what you'd consider a tin foil hat person/conspiracy theorist. Occam's Razor...
Chiming in on the Catholicism popularity of late- a big reason I think many are flocking to the church is the consistency over literal centuries and the rules are what make it so clear to know where you stand. It's never about the priest, whereas so many churches in our culture are ALL about the pastor, in fact, the priests wear what they do to deemphasize themselves in the Mass. Think of it as going to a familiar friend each week and knowing that even if you are across the world when you call that friend up they will still be there in the same, familiar ways for you.
Eminem was my #1 on Spotify wrapped last year because my 7 year old son plays "We Made You" on repeat lol
Re Spotify and exposure to new music: I think what we're missing is curation from an actual DJ... I miss radio so much! I just watched a documentary about the Red Hot Chili Peppers and kept thinking, where are kids going to find that one obscure band right before they blow up? It used to be in small clubs and weird college radio stations. I don't know what kids do now, I guess the internet, but there is so much noise out there. I refuse to pay for Spotify, but if they started having DJ's, like expert curators of all kinds of genre's that talk about the music and play interesting stuff, SIGN ME UP!
Yes! I have zero desire to choose what music I am going to listen to. I want someone to just play it for me
I wrote this a while back and think it's applicable. https://emilyhenderson.substack.com/p/i-miss-radio
Here as the parent of a 16 year old boy to tell you I know to Juice World is, and have known for years as that is all my son and his friends listen to. So his presence on the list isn’t a surprise to me as he also has ALOT of music that has come out the last few years.
Re: Spotify, we gotta remember that it’s the most streams over the last 20 years. Which means 2006. Drake was Drake long before the big blow up a couple years ago. Kanye was Kanye not Ye for much of that time. Rhianna was making music with Eminem. Idk, this list has young millennial high school and college culture all over it!! I’m turning 33 today and this feels right. Except juice world??? Idk about them either lol
All the corruption and powerlessness, lack of choices, feeling trapped... societies become more open and approving of vigilante justice if they don't feel there is fairness or balance, and if supernatural justice has failed or isn't part of the culture.
I don't support it, but I understand it.
I am definitely a contributor to “Blinding Lights” being the most streamed on Spotify. It was my number one the year it came out. I do use Spotify to discover new music - Skott, Blanco White, Cannons are some of the ones I have been introduced to.
This might just be me but I’m actually very curious if it was this way for anyone else as well:
I didn’t talk to a single person about the shooting outside of a 30 second conversation with my husband Saturday night. I am friends with politically engaged or otherwise generally aware people. The people who will text/call/scream whenever he dies (of hopefully natural causes). I Spent Sunday at my son’s lax game with my in laws and other friends. Not one person even mentioned it. And neither did I because… I didn’t have a single thing to say about it? Any conversation would have consisted of “did you hear?” (Knowing full well they did) and then “yes crazy, glad no one was hurt” insert shoulder shrug? There’s the line in the Handmaid’s Tale that goes something like, “Normal is just what you’re used to.” And apparently a lot of us are just used to assassination attempts on Donald Trump and that is… troubling.
Same here. My husband told me about it because I don't take this stuff in over the weekend (we have an agreement that he'll tell me about anything major) and no one else in my life spoke of it.
I was watching the NBA playoffs with my son and we were more annoyed/mad that we couldn’t watch anymore…..which is probably not great.
I didn't hear about it until Monday morning... My news intake is very wrapped into my M-F routine so weekend stuff often falls off my radar. My husband gets news alerts on his phone. He saw it and also didn't choose to bring it up. I asked him about it and he said, "nobody got hurt, so it didn't feel necessary." We hung out with neighbors a lot of the day and none of them brought it up either.
Yep, same.
Spotify - put on Olivia Dean Radio (or whatever artist) it will pull in others that are similar & you will find new artists that you like. The list doesn't surprise me, but it's not what I listen to outside of Taylor Swift. But I do follow the Jamie B Golden rule of if you want to listen to a new album for a while, run it on You Tube & not your Spotify so that you don't ruin your Wrapped.
Conspiracy was my first thought. But then I feel back to my basic theory when things go wrong - always assume incompetence. In that the likelihood of things going wrong because people screwed up is always more likely than an organized cabal who managed to make everything go wrong in just the right way.
Plus, from a more skeptical point of view, I don’t think this was a useful staged event. In that it was on a weekend, so people aren’t paying attention. It’s still 6 months from the election. It’s right in the middle of other big events like Iran and the King’s visit which quickly pull the narrative away from what was really some brief but uneventful excitement.
Hah- this brings it back to Dr. Santos of the Pitt, “I figure out the dumbest thing they could have done, and assume they did it.”
If this hasn’t been mentioned yet regarding the comment about Coldplay’s “Yellow” …. That song now belongs to the Savannah Bananas baseball team. I bet that is exactly why it is so popular.
I’ve been thinking about the reporting of the recent increased movement towards religion for a while now, and trying to figure out what exactly it’s about. Like, what is being offered there that is so attractive? It’s also been reported that males, in particular, have had a significantly increased movement towards religion. Now, I realize this is very cynical, but what I’ve come up with, after asking what religious communities offer that might be “missing” from society at large (at least in relative terms), particularly for males, and what I landed on for many religions, is patriarchy. Quite a few religions have a real “obey the man of the house” vibe (or worse) built in or, as with Catholicism (in which I was raised), a very clear hierarchy of elevating of men over women in leadership roles.
I think it's the ritual and community aspects that are attracting young men too. That and feeling a sense of purpose. Women went to college, men went to church. The loneliness epidemic has found a potential solution in religion.
I also think it's not a statistically significant trend quite yet.
Totally agree. We have a "mega church" in our downtown that attracts LOTS of young people (18-24 year olds, young families, etc.). There is a coffee shop attached to it which I went and worked in one day. I was honestly a bit floored by all the young men just sitting and having coffee together. Some of them were reading/discussing things. There was a kind of, I don't know the word I'm looking for, almost affectionate vibe they were giving off? Like they were speaking kindly and gently and thoughtfully with one another and yes, as someone who is hugely skeptical of this church I can hear some alarm bells going off but I can't pretend like I see much of that in secular spaces.
There was an interview on NPR Tuesday morning with a woman who knew Cole Thomas Allen when he was in a university Christian group with her. She said that he’d been mischaracterized as anti-Christian and felt his manifesto was misguided but was thought out from a moral point of view. I do think that the negative messages of the Trump administration do provoke frustration and a sense of hopelessness.
I bet you would know J Balvin’s Mi Gente if you put it on. I spent a few years doing Latin dance on the regular and he’s in my regular Spotify rotation for sure.
As a lifelong Catholic who has always struggled with my love for the church and my wish that it was fully LGBT affirming and allowed women’s ordination, I am so interested by the “Catholic moment” that’s happening. We are seeing a lot of new converts in our area.
I'm more tinfoil hat for Butler than for WHCD, and I'm trying to leave it on the shelf. But here's the deal: Doesn't it seem odd that this never happened to Obama? I mean, there were threats. I've read about them just yesterday to remind myself. There is a person who stormed the White House during Obama's time. But now 3 times for Trump including one close call in 18 months? That's Gerald Ford level (ICYMI: Shots fired by two different women, 17 days apart.) People hate Trump, but let's be real. There were some awful people who hated Obama. Three possible explanations: (1) Obama tried to keep the threats against himself low key so as not to rile up his base, and Trump likes it when his base is riled up. However, if somebody had shot at Obama, that would be news no matter what, so I don't think that's quite the reason. (2) Secret Security has become lax for some reason? We basically went from 1981 to 2024 without hearing of a shot fired at a sitting or ex-president. That's a long stretch. I assumed that's because they had some procedures nailed down. Maybe they've become complacent? (3) There were things in Obama's time, and I don't remember them very well because of the passage of time.
I was wondering this. I definitely worried about Obama’s safety as president and I think there were probably threats or plans that were thwarted and they were not publicized at all. Due to not wanting to encourage copycats, leak secure information, or rile up the public. Which, does seem like might be happening with this one…
This has been on my mind as well. Did Trump hire his own secret service (ie, incompetent like the rest of his administration)? Because if not... I find it hard to believe 3 assassination attempts that came that close (but that also didn't happen to succeed) are just a "coincidence". And I am the exact opposite of what you'd consider a tin foil hat person/conspiracy theorist. Occam's Razor...
Where are you all finding these Spotify lists? I'm in the app but it's just showing me all the usual stuff.